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Genesis|Archive #2 (1976 - 1992)

Archive #2 (1976 - 1992)

Genesis

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The first Genesis Archive made sense. It covered the Peter Gabriel years, an era that was not only supremely creative for the band, but filled with rarities, forgotten tracks, outtakes, B-sides, BBC sessions, and live performances begging for a collection. It was a box set for fans and it filled its purpose splendidly. Its sequel, Genesis Archive 2: 1976-1992, attempts to fill the role for the Genesis Mach II, otherwise known as the Phil Collins years, but the problem is, the Collins era was completely different from Gabriel's. It wasn't just that the band became progressively more pop oriented during these 16 years -- besides, they never totally abandoned their prog roots -- but the late '70s and '80s simply were not conducive to the kind of rarities that made the first Archive valuable. They didn't need to do BBC sessions, they didn't do non-LP rarities live, and their B-sides were often devoted to extended mixes for the dance club or live cuts. If there were outtakes, they were often left in the can because they simply didn't meet quality-control standards. All of this is borne out by the three-disc Archive 2. Although there are some nice moments scattered throughout the record, it all winds up feeling rather unnecessary. None of the remixes are particularly interesting and the live tracks, while listenable, are never revelatory -- and those wind up forming the bulk of the set. There's some value in the outtakes, but most of them are historical curiosities; only a handful, such as the Abacab leftover "You Might Recall" and an early version of "Paperlate," are truly worthwhile. For anyone other than hardcore fans, this can easily be overlooked.

© Stephen Thomas Erlewine /TiVo

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1
On the Shoreline
00:04:49

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Geoff Callingham, Technical Assistant - MARK ROBINSON, AssistantEngineer - Genesis, MainArtist - Mike Bowen, Technical Assistant

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 1991 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

2
Hearts on Fire
00:05:14

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Technical Assistant - MARK ROBINSON, AssistantEngineer - Genesis, MainArtist - Mike Bowen, Technical Assistant

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 1992 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

3
You Might Recall
00:05:32

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Geoff Callingham, Engineer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

4
Paperlate
00:03:21

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Engineer - Genesis, MainArtist - EWF Hors, Brass

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

5
Evidence of Autumn
00:04:58

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Dave Bascombe, ProductionAssistant - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer, Engineer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

6
Do the Neurotic
00:07:08

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Arranger, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Arranger, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Arranger, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

7
I'd Rather Be You
00:03:58

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Arranger, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Arranger, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Arranger, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

8
Naminamu
00:03:54

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Arranger, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Arranger, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Arranger, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

9
Inside and Out
00:06:43

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Steve Hackett, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

10
Feeding the Fire
00:05:51

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

11
I Can't Dance (Single Version)
00:07:02

Trevor Gray, Additional Production, Remixer - Howard Gray, Additional Production, Remixer - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Geoff Callingham, Technical Assistant - MARK ROBINSON, AssistantEngineer - Genesis, MainArtist - Mike Bowen, Technical Assistant

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

12
Submarine
00:05:13

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Hugh Padgham, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

13
Illegal Alien (Live)
00:05:31

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Bill Bruford, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

14
Dreaming While You Sleep (Live)
00:07:48

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Bill Bruford, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

15
It's Gonna Get Better (Live)
00:07:32

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Bill Bruford, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

16
Deep in the Motherlode (Live at Theatre Royal, Drury Lane, London, 5th May 1980)
00:05:54

Mike Rutherford, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Drums, Vocals - Nick Davis, Mixer - Tony Banks, Keyboards - David Hentschel, Producer - Genesis, Producer, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

17
Ripples (Live)
00:09:53

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Bill Bruford, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

18
The Brazilian (Live)
00:05:17

Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Bill Bruford, Drums - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

19
Your Own Special Way (Live)
00:06:51

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Peter Robinson, Strings Arranger - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Bill Bruford, Percussion, Strings - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards - Genesis, MainArtist - Craig Schertz, Live Engineer - Robert Ingram, Strings

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

20
Burning Rope (Live)
00:07:28

Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Bill Bruford, Drums, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist - Craig Schertz, Live Engineer

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

21
Entangled (Live)
00:06:57

Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Bill Bruford, Glockenspiel, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Steve Hackett, Guitar - Genesis, MainArtist - Stephen Hackett, Writer - Craig Schertz, Live Engineer

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

22
Duke's Travels (Live)
00:09:31

Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Bill Bruford, Drums, Percussion - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

23
Invisible Touch (Single Version)
00:05:58

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Arranger, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Arranger, Drums, Vocals, Writer - John Potoker, Remixer - Paul Gomersall, AssistantEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Arranger, Keyboards, Writer, Synthesizer - Geoff Callingham, Technical Assistant - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

24
Land of Confusion (Single Version)
00:06:59

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Arranger, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Arranger, Drums, Vocals, Writer - John Potoker, Remixer - Paul Gomersall, AssistantEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Arranger, Keyboards, Writer, Bass Synthesizer - Geoff Callingham, Technical Assistant - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

25
Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (Single Version)
00:11:46

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Arranger, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Arranger, Drums, Vocals, Writer - John Potoker, Remixer - Paul Gomersall, AssistantEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer, Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Arranger, Keyboards, Writer, Bass Synthesizer - Geoff Callingham, Technical Assistant - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

26
No Reply at All (Live)
00:04:56

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Producer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Geoff Callingham, MixingEngineer - Genesis, MainArtist - Craig Schertz, Live Engineer

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

27
Man on the Corner (Live)
00:04:04

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Producer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Bass Guitar - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards - Geoff Callingham, MixingEngineer - Genesis, MainArtist - Craig Schertz, Live Engineer

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

28
The Lady Lies (Live)
00:06:08

Chester Thompson, Drums - Daryl Stuermer, Guitar - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist - Craig Schertz, Live Engineer

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

29
Open Door
00:04:08

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Dave Bascombe, ProductionAssistant - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards - David Hentschel, Producer, Engineer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

30
The Day the Light Went Out
00:03:14

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer, Engineer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

31
Vancouver
00:03:03

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards - David Hentschel, Producer, Engineer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

32
Pigeons
00:03:13

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

33
It's Yourself
00:05:25

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

34
Mama (Work in Progress Version)
00:10:43

Mike Rutherford, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, MixingEngineer - Hugh Padgham, Producer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist

This Compilation Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 2000 Craft Recordings ℗ 2000 Atlantic Recording Corp. for the United States & Canada

Albumbeschreibung

The first Genesis Archive made sense. It covered the Peter Gabriel years, an era that was not only supremely creative for the band, but filled with rarities, forgotten tracks, outtakes, B-sides, BBC sessions, and live performances begging for a collection. It was a box set for fans and it filled its purpose splendidly. Its sequel, Genesis Archive 2: 1976-1992, attempts to fill the role for the Genesis Mach II, otherwise known as the Phil Collins years, but the problem is, the Collins era was completely different from Gabriel's. It wasn't just that the band became progressively more pop oriented during these 16 years -- besides, they never totally abandoned their prog roots -- but the late '70s and '80s simply were not conducive to the kind of rarities that made the first Archive valuable. They didn't need to do BBC sessions, they didn't do non-LP rarities live, and their B-sides were often devoted to extended mixes for the dance club or live cuts. If there were outtakes, they were often left in the can because they simply didn't meet quality-control standards. All of this is borne out by the three-disc Archive 2. Although there are some nice moments scattered throughout the record, it all winds up feeling rather unnecessary. None of the remixes are particularly interesting and the live tracks, while listenable, are never revelatory -- and those wind up forming the bulk of the set. There's some value in the outtakes, but most of them are historical curiosities; only a handful, such as the Abacab leftover "You Might Recall" and an early version of "Paperlate," are truly worthwhile. For anyone other than hardcore fans, this can easily be overlooked.

© Stephen Thomas Erlewine /TiVo

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