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Depending upon your point of view, Genesis in 1976/1977 was either a band ascending toward its peak commercially, or a group crippled by the departure of a key member, and living on artistic borrowed time. In reality, they were sort of both, and fortunately for the members, their commerciality was more important than their artistic street cred, as their burgeoning record sales and huge audiences on tour during that period attested. Seconds Out caught the band straddling both ends of their history, their second concert album and this time out a double LP. Apart from capitalizing on a successful tour, the album's raison d'etre appears to have been to present the case to critics and longtime fans that post-Peter Gabriel Genesis, with Phil Collins as lead singer, was essentially the same band as Genesis fronted by Peter Gabriel. The original side one songs consisted of repertory from such post-Gabriel albums as Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering, and most of those live versions, including "Squonk," "The Carpet Crawl" (positively ethereal), and "Afterglow," are superior to the original studio renditions of the same songs. Indeed, part of the beauty of this album is the sheer flexibility of the band during this period -- in addition to superb vocals by Collins throughout, the drumming by Chester Thompson is at least a match for Collins' best playing. On that older repertory (which comprised sides two and three of the LP version), the results are more mixed, though still surprisingly enjoyable -- on "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway," despite the best efforts of Collins, backed by Michael Rutherford's and Tony Banks's singing, he really can't match the subtlety or expressiveness of Gabriel's singing, though he comes close; he actually fares slightly better on the closing section of "The Musical Box," a piece that requires power as much as subtlety. "Supper's Ready" -- which, sung by Gabriel, missed making it onto 1973's live album -- holds up well, mostly by virtue of the playing; and in fairness, the band even extended itself to including "Cinema Show," which is worth hearing just for Bill Bruford's transcendent drumming, over and above how well everything else works; as this track was never represented with Gabriel, even on the group's boxed set, it's difficult to complain too loudly about any weakness in Collins' singing.
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Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Lead Vocals - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Band Member, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals - Phil Collins, Producer, Solo Keyboards, Lead Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Band Member, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals - Phil Collins, Producer, Lead Vocals - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - George Piros, MasteringEngineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
DISC 2
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Solo Keyboards, Lead Vocals, Writer - Peter Gabriel, Writer - Bill Bruford, Drums - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Lead Vocals, Writer - Nick Davis, Remastering Engineer - Chris Blair, Remastering Engineer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Geoff Callingham, Remastering Engineer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Chester Thompson, Drums, Percussion - Mike Rutherford, Producer, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals, Writer - Phil Collins, Producer, Drums, Lead Vocals, Writer - Tony Banks, Producer, Keyboards, Backing Vocals, Writer - David Hentschel, Producer - Neil Ross, ProductionAssistant - Steve Hackett, Producer, Guitar, Writer - Genesis, MainArtist
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings ℗ 1977 Philip Collins Limited, Anthony Banks Limited, Michael Rutherford Limited under exlusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the United States.
Album review
Depending upon your point of view, Genesis in 1976/1977 was either a band ascending toward its peak commercially, or a group crippled by the departure of a key member, and living on artistic borrowed time. In reality, they were sort of both, and fortunately for the members, their commerciality was more important than their artistic street cred, as their burgeoning record sales and huge audiences on tour during that period attested. Seconds Out caught the band straddling both ends of their history, their second concert album and this time out a double LP. Apart from capitalizing on a successful tour, the album's raison d'etre appears to have been to present the case to critics and longtime fans that post-Peter Gabriel Genesis, with Phil Collins as lead singer, was essentially the same band as Genesis fronted by Peter Gabriel. The original side one songs consisted of repertory from such post-Gabriel albums as Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering, and most of those live versions, including "Squonk," "The Carpet Crawl" (positively ethereal), and "Afterglow," are superior to the original studio renditions of the same songs. Indeed, part of the beauty of this album is the sheer flexibility of the band during this period -- in addition to superb vocals by Collins throughout, the drumming by Chester Thompson is at least a match for Collins' best playing. On that older repertory (which comprised sides two and three of the LP version), the results are more mixed, though still surprisingly enjoyable -- on "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway," despite the best efforts of Collins, backed by Michael Rutherford's and Tony Banks's singing, he really can't match the subtlety or expressiveness of Gabriel's singing, though he comes close; he actually fares slightly better on the closing section of "The Musical Box," a piece that requires power as much as subtlety. "Supper's Ready" -- which, sung by Gabriel, missed making it onto 1973's live album -- holds up well, mostly by virtue of the playing; and in fairness, the band even extended itself to including "Cinema Show," which is worth hearing just for Bill Bruford's transcendent drumming, over and above how well everything else works; as this track was never represented with Gabriel, even on the group's boxed set, it's difficult to complain too loudly about any weakness in Collins' singing.
© Bruce Eder & William Ruhlmann /TiVo
About the album
- 2 disc(s) - 12 track(s)
- Total length: 01:35:25
- Main artists: Genesis
- Label: Atlantic Records
- Genre: Pop/Rock Rock
Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, © 1977 Craft Recordings Under exclusive license to Rhino Entertainment Company, a Warner Music Group Company for the United States and Canada and to Warner Music UK Limited for the rest of the world, ℗ 1977 Craft Recordings
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