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Say You Will

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Lindsey Buckingham hadn't recorded a studio album with Fleetwood Mac in 16 years when Say You Will was released in April 2003. His partner, Stevie Nicks, had been missing in action from the group since 1990, and while both joined the reunited group in 1997 for a tour and live album (The Dance), not to mention Bill Clinton's 1993 inauguration, it had been a long, long time since the two made new music for the Mac. They were lured back into the fold for...well, the specifics -- whether money, prestige, status, publicity, or creativity -- don't really matter, since the end result is the same, it's that Buckingham and Nicks have come home. This doesn't qualify as a full-fledged Fleetwood reunion, since Christine McVie isn't here, choosing to opt out of this high-profile return to the breach (although her playing is occasionally heard on the album). This results in a record that never quite sounds like Fleetwood Mac. Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are so grateful to have the two superstars back in the group that they cede ground to Buckingham and Nicks, who never collaborate as much as share space. Each singer/songwriter is given nine songs apiece, a move which, in itself, would not necessarily be a problem, but over the course of this lengthy, lengthy album, the evenhandedness starts to give the impression that this is two solo albums presented as a group effort. An assessment that's a little harsh, since the group can still conjure echoes of their classic sound, but the division of work is so deliberate and their work so dissimilar, it can't help but feel like two separate pieces pushed together to make the whole. Which is where Christine McVie becomes a critical factor. While never a star like Nicks, nor possessing the mad genius of Buckingham, McVie was a strong, likeable songwriter whose gently melodic works balanced the extremities of her bandmates while also forcing them to choose the best material to fit the record. Add to this that Fleetwood Mac have decided to run wild with the length of a CD, producing a record that is significantly longer than the messy, chaotic Tusk, but without its inspired insanity or depth of sound and character. Here, even if most songs are in the four-minute ballpark, they all feel longer, partially because the album clocks in at nearly 80 minutes and the sequencing flows as it was designed by committee. So, Say You Will winds up occupying a strange middle ground, often feeling as if it was Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks' albums bouncing around on shuffle play, but also occasionally flashing moments that are purely, satisfyingly Fleetwood Mac. Although there are occasional misguided attempts to modernize the songs -- most notably drum loops on some of Nicks' songs -- none of the songs sound as if the band were forcing themselves to sound contemporary. Sure, it sounds commercial, but that's the band's idiom -- what's important is that it never sounds compromised, it sounds as if the band is at once trying too hard while being unwilling to sacrifice individual moments for the greater good. So, Say You Will straddles many lines at once. Nicks' material is better-realized than many of her recent albums, but Buckingham's always sounds as if it should be wilder than it is (it should all sound as unrestrained as his guitar, which is continually surprising throughout the record). It never sounds like classic Fleetwood Mac, nor does it sound modern. It often sounds like solo albums, but without the freedom that allows. Most of these problems derive merely from the length. Cut out half of the record -- have it weigh in at nine or ten songs and run no longer than 45 minutes -- and it would have been a good, solid comeback, perhaps even eclipsing the uneven Tango in the Night. But there are too many songs, simply too much to make Say You Will work, even if there is enough to admire to make you wish it did.

© Stephen Thomas Erlewine /TiVo

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1
What's the World Coming To
00:03:48

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - John Shanks, Additional Keyboards - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Julian Raymond, Writer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

2
Murrow Turning over in His Grave
00:04:12

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

3
Illume (9-11)
00:04:51

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer, Audio Recording Engineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

4
Thrown Down
00:04:02

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

5
Miranda
00:04:18

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Engineer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer - Jamie Muhoberac, Additional Musicians - Bernie Grundman, Engineer, Masterer - Christine Mcvie, Additional Musicians - JOHN MCVIE, Guitar, Writer, Bass - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - John Shanks, Additional Musicians - Sheryl Crow, Hammond Organ, Vocals, Additional Musicians - Dave Palmer, Additional Musicians - Rob Cavallo, Producer - MARK NEEDHAM, Mixer, Engineer - Ken Allardyce, Engineer - John Pierce, Additional Musicians - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

6
Red Rover
00:03:58

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Engineer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer - Jamie Muhoberac, Additional Musicians - Bernie Grundman, Engineer, Masterer - Christine Mcvie, Additional Musicians - JOHN MCVIE, Guitar, Writer, Bass - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - John Shanks, Additional Musicians - Sheryl Crow, Additional Musicians - Dave Palmer, Additional Musicians - Rob Cavallo, Producer - MARK NEEDHAM, Mixer, Engineer - Ken Allardyce, Engineer - John Pierce, Additional Musicians - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

7
Say You Will
00:03:49

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - Sheryl Crow, Hammond Organ, Vocals, Backing Vocals - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

8
Peacekeeper
00:04:11

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - John Shanks, Producer, Additional Guitar - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

9
Come
00:05:59

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Jamie Muhoberac, Hammond Organ - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - Rob Cavallo, Producer - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Neale Heywood, Writer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

10
Smile at You
00:04:33

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

11
Running Through the Garden
00:04:34

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Kennedy, Writer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Gary Nicholson, Writer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

12
Silver Girl
00:03:59

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - Sheryl Crow, Hammond Organ, Backing Vocals - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

13
Steal Your Heart Away
00:03:33

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - Christine Mcvie, Keyboards, Additional Keyboards, Hammond Organ - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - Dave Palmer, Additional Piano - Rob Cavallo, Producer - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - John Pierce, Guitar, Bass Guitar - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

14
Bleed to Love Her
00:04:06

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - Rob Cavallo, Producer - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

15
Everybody Finds Out
00:04:29

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Engineer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals - Jamie Muhoberac, Additional Musicians - Bernie Grundman, Engineer, Masterer - Christine Mcvie, Additional Musicians - JOHN MCVIE, Guitar, Writer, Bass - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - John Shanks, Additional Musicians - Sheryl Crow, Additional Musicians - Dave Palmer, Additional Musicians - MARK NEEDHAM, Mixer, Engineer - Ken Allardyce, Engineer - Rick Nowels, Writer - John Pierce, Additional Musicians - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

16
Destiny Rules
00:04:26

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Engineer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals - Jamie Muhoberac, Additional Musicians - Bernie Grundman, Engineer, Masterer - Christine Mcvie, Additional Musicians - JOHN MCVIE, Guitar, Writer, Bass - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - CHRIS LORD-ALGE, Mixer, Engineer - John Shanks, Additional Musicians - Sheryl Crow, Additional Musicians - Dave Palmer, Additional Musicians - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer - Ken Allardyce, Engineer - John Pierce, Additional Musicians - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

17
Say Goodbye
00:03:26

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Writer, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

18
Goodbye Baby
00:03:50

Stevie Nicks, Keyboards, Vocals, Writer - Lindsey Buckingham, Producer, Guitar, Keyboards, Percussion, Vocals, Audio Recording Engineer - Bernie Grundman, MasteringEngineer - JOHN MCVIE, Bass Guitar, Writer - MICK FLEETWOOD, Drums, Percussion - MARK NEEDHAM, Engineer, Audio Recording Engineer, MixingEngineer - Ken Allardyce, Audio Recording Engineer - Fleetwood Mac, MainArtist - Ken Koroshetz, Audio Recording Engineer - Ray Lindsey, Audio Recording Engineer - Joe Bozzi, AssistantEngineer

© 2003 Reprise Records ℗ 2003 Warner Records Inc.

Chronique

Lindsey Buckingham hadn't recorded a studio album with Fleetwood Mac in 16 years when Say You Will was released in April 2003. His partner, Stevie Nicks, had been missing in action from the group since 1990, and while both joined the reunited group in 1997 for a tour and live album (The Dance), not to mention Bill Clinton's 1993 inauguration, it had been a long, long time since the two made new music for the Mac. They were lured back into the fold for...well, the specifics -- whether money, prestige, status, publicity, or creativity -- don't really matter, since the end result is the same, it's that Buckingham and Nicks have come home. This doesn't qualify as a full-fledged Fleetwood reunion, since Christine McVie isn't here, choosing to opt out of this high-profile return to the breach (although her playing is occasionally heard on the album). This results in a record that never quite sounds like Fleetwood Mac. Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are so grateful to have the two superstars back in the group that they cede ground to Buckingham and Nicks, who never collaborate as much as share space. Each singer/songwriter is given nine songs apiece, a move which, in itself, would not necessarily be a problem, but over the course of this lengthy, lengthy album, the evenhandedness starts to give the impression that this is two solo albums presented as a group effort. An assessment that's a little harsh, since the group can still conjure echoes of their classic sound, but the division of work is so deliberate and their work so dissimilar, it can't help but feel like two separate pieces pushed together to make the whole. Which is where Christine McVie becomes a critical factor. While never a star like Nicks, nor possessing the mad genius of Buckingham, McVie was a strong, likeable songwriter whose gently melodic works balanced the extremities of her bandmates while also forcing them to choose the best material to fit the record. Add to this that Fleetwood Mac have decided to run wild with the length of a CD, producing a record that is significantly longer than the messy, chaotic Tusk, but without its inspired insanity or depth of sound and character. Here, even if most songs are in the four-minute ballpark, they all feel longer, partially because the album clocks in at nearly 80 minutes and the sequencing flows as it was designed by committee. So, Say You Will winds up occupying a strange middle ground, often feeling as if it was Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks' albums bouncing around on shuffle play, but also occasionally flashing moments that are purely, satisfyingly Fleetwood Mac. Although there are occasional misguided attempts to modernize the songs -- most notably drum loops on some of Nicks' songs -- none of the songs sound as if the band were forcing themselves to sound contemporary. Sure, it sounds commercial, but that's the band's idiom -- what's important is that it never sounds compromised, it sounds as if the band is at once trying too hard while being unwilling to sacrifice individual moments for the greater good. So, Say You Will straddles many lines at once. Nicks' material is better-realized than many of her recent albums, but Buckingham's always sounds as if it should be wilder than it is (it should all sound as unrestrained as his guitar, which is continually surprising throughout the record). It never sounds like classic Fleetwood Mac, nor does it sound modern. It often sounds like solo albums, but without the freedom that allows. Most of these problems derive merely from the length. Cut out half of the record -- have it weigh in at nine or ten songs and run no longer than 45 minutes -- and it would have been a good, solid comeback, perhaps even eclipsing the uneven Tango in the Night. But there are too many songs, simply too much to make Say You Will work, even if there is enough to admire to make you wish it did.

© Stephen Thomas Erlewine /TiVo

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